tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post1696678569616347338..comments2024-03-28T18:39:59.184-07:00Comments on SearchReSearch: SearchResearch Challenge (10/23/19): Where is this lobster image from? What's the story behind it? Dan Russellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-62628714972048823912019-11-04T10:35:42.926-08:002019-11-04T10:35:42.926-08:00Nicely done! Nicely done! Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-81438178226775492622019-10-29T06:41:41.685-07:002019-10-29T06:41:41.685-07:00Anne and Deb here. We started by doing a reverse i...Anne and Deb here. We started by doing a reverse image search in google images. This led us to several stock photo image sites. We thought we might have gotten some helpful information when we found this result https://ateliersartmuseesnationaux.fr/en/engraving /KM005213 saying it was an engraving by Salvatore Tresca. Tried to find more info on Tresca and came up with no more info. Even tried Wikipedia in Italian no luck! Also found this result- https://www.mpl.org/blog/now/treasures-of-the-rare-books-room-description-de-l-egypte Found the same image in this person's review of their visit to the Milwaukee Public Library. Looked for more information on the book in google books and didn't find it. Next we went back to our original search and found lots of wallpaper which looked very similar called "Jack the Crustacean" Thought there might be a back story but all efforts to find more info on this wallpaper design came up with nothing. We even tried jack the lobster as a search. Went back to our original search and found a result from the Getty Museum- https://www.gettyimages.ca/photos/the-armee?page=20&sort=mostpopular&phrase=the%20armee When we got to the site we did a search for Egypt lobster and found the image with this description- Spiny lobster, Zoology plate<br />Spiny lobster, Zoology plate (Crustaceans) by Marie Jules Cesar Savigny, engraving by Tresca after a drawing by Savigny, from Description de l'Egypte, ou Recueil des observations et des recherches qui ont ete faites en Egypte pendant l'expedition de l'armee francaise (Description of Egypt, or the collection of observations and researches which were made in Egypt during the expedition of the French Army), Histoire naturelle, Planches, Volume II, Plate 8, Imprimerie Imperiale, 1817, Paris.It did confirm that the engraver was Tresca. We would have ended our search here but after reading other answers we decided to try yandex but that site was blocked at school so had to wait until I got home to try it. Uploaded image and got same result others did. So for us this was not quite so simple and easy but now I know if I ever get a beach house I can decorate with jack the crustacean wallpaper! Debra Gottslebenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08074610468240387547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-5137846785121219422019-10-25T11:43:52.654-07:002019-10-25T11:43:52.654-07:00The lobster image is readily found in Images. Thi...<br />The lobster image is readily found in Images. This led to rawpixel an online supplier of images. It has this to say about your critter: <br /><br />Lobster illustrated by Edme François Jomard for Description de l'Égypte Histoire Naturelle (1809-1828).<br /><br />This title punched into Search finds: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b2300300m/f32.item and in the book a nice plate entitled<br /><br />Crustaceans pl. 8: Lobsters / Tresca sculp., Huet pinxt. [Call number: 15297, A]<br /><br />[homard lobster back story] finds this https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xy7vzw/lobsters-delicious-history-is-completely-insane<br /><br />Ha, they were known a few years ago as the cockroaches of the sea good for bass bait and prisoners<br /><br />Delicious Challenge jon<br /><br />Search of your blog found nothing useful here even with CRTL Fjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-83505228013532240222019-10-25T11:34:56.355-07:002019-10-25T11:34:56.355-07:00Ramón —
neat images… not crazy about how they are ...Ramón —<br /><a href="https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/AE16/production/_109266544_01_rm_ultra_asg_2019.jpg" rel="nofollow">neat images… not crazy about how they are displayed or the exhibit space…</a><br />perhaps Dan could see them in the flesh… ground truth, under the ultraviolet…<br /><a href="https://altmansiegel.com/exhibitions-l/current/" rel="nofollow">gallery…</a><br /><a href="https://altmansiegel.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/RM_Ultra_PR_1.4-Mosse-final.pdf" rel="nofollow">press - Richard Mosse - include 'Heat Maps' images</a><br /><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/CdMctrpjk5ThNL5s5" rel="nofollow">map</a><br /><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/vXkGKh9d84wExBd5A" rel="nofollow">street, 1150 25th St, San Francisco, CA 94107</a><br /><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/GH3GN6ijQdV7UQGo9" rel="nofollow">2016 - Minnesota & 25th st.</a><br />btw, saw this as I was looking about — didn't realize 's HQ was that old - ;•\P (not Bublik - misleading)<br /><a href="https://tinyurl.com/y5l7pmcp" rel="nofollow">Yandex</a><br /><a href="https://goo.gl/maps/WViWNStvf5vtRZnq9" rel="nofollow">on maps…</a><br /><a href="https://www.slavorum.org/bublik-circular-apartment-building-in-moscow-is-the-pinnacle-of-brutalism/" rel="nofollow">slavorum</a><br /><a href="https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170329-the-extraordinary-electricity-of-the-scottish-island-of-eigg" rel="nofollow">the BBC has done a make over since I looked last</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-32891528059086200182019-10-25T05:46:29.186-07:002019-10-25T05:46:29.186-07:00Hi Remmij! Thanks for the links. Climbing link'...Hi Remmij! Thanks for the links. Climbing link's photos are awesome and I just read another camera "saw" the event on the Izta. So, the "it was nothing" theory failed. Also was searching for maybe other photos and found: <br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/CopernicusEU/status/1159134631897313280" rel="nofollow">Copernicus photo from February 2, 2019</a> I didn't know about Tlaloc volcano or I forgot about it. Therefore, I did SRS with [Tlaloc Volcan] and other similar and found that there are Volcano and Mount:<br /><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tlaloc" rel="nofollow">The Mount</a><br /><br /><a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volc%C3%A1n_Tl%C3%A1loc_(Ciudad_de_M%C3%A9xico)" rel="nofollow">The Volcano</a><br /><br />Also found about the Ghost Mountain that "appears" only on February and that Mexico City has 8 volcanoes. Other note says there are only 5<br /><br /><a href="https://www.excelsior.com.mx/comunidad/en-la-cdmx-hay-8-volcanes-los-conoces/1243107" rel="nofollow">8 Volcanoes</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.mexicoinsolito.com/monte-tlaloc-y-montana-fantasma/" rel="nofollow">The Ghost Mountain</a><br /><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/GMYLKVhlhT4" rel="nofollow">Video 1 Ghost Mountain. In Spanish 5 minutes </a><br /><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/GMYLKVhlhT4" rel="nofollow">Video 2 Ghost Mountain. In Spanish 12 minutes by another author. The event happens after the 9 minute </a> Plus the Archaeological zone built in the highest part of the world.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-50055615" rel="nofollow">Not volcano and beautiful: The rainforest under a different light</a>Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-36419652851295580552019-10-24T11:56:35.158-07:002019-10-24T11:56:35.158-07:00Mr. G…
Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl
maybe Masaya ...Mr. G…<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoV1s5PCUVo" rel="nofollow">Popocatepetl and Iztaccihuatl</a><br /><a href="https://volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=344100" rel="nofollow">maybe Masaya ??</a><br /><a href="https://sightdoing.net/climbing-iztaccihuatl-to-popocatepetl-volcano/" rel="nofollow">climbing</a><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_S2rNN8lFc" rel="nofollow">interesting video</a><br /><a href="https://www.wmagazine.com/gallery/rick-owens-spring-2020-photos" rel="nofollow">remotely associated…</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-83912900826273481392019-10-24T09:18:18.241-07:002019-10-24T09:18:18.241-07:00Out of topic and interesting. What this could be? ...Out of topic and interesting. What this could be? Reflex, Red Sprite, gas? Official sources says it is nothing related with Izta awakening. Iztaccihuatl is next to Popocatépetl and last eruption was in 1800's <br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/redskywatchers/status/1187081981072478209" rel="nofollow">Images Closeup</a><br /><br /><a href="https://youtu.be/h78FdRF1sQg?t=103" rel="nofollow">Other videos events</a><br /><br />Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-44111905756834658712019-10-24T06:04:08.217-07:002019-10-24T06:04:08.217-07:00After reading the posts made by other SRS, searche...After reading the posts made by other SRS, searched<br /><br />[lobster Savigny]<br /><br /><a href="https://www.gettyimages.dk/detail/news-photo/spiny-lobster-zoology-plate-by-marie-jules-cesar-savigny-news-photo/1144554040" rel="nofollow">Spiny lobster, Zoology plate (Crustaceans)</a> A bigger much clear image of the lobster. <br /><br />["Description de l'Egypte" Jules Cesar Savigny]<br /><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Jules_C%C3%A9sar_Savigny" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a><br />Described dozens of plants. Member of the Academy of Science. He is also known for proposing a theory that the mouth-parts of insects are homologous with locomotory organs.Eyesight deteriorated. Many animal species with his name and after reading English, French and Spanish version, also found: The abbreviation Savigny is used to indicate Marie Jules César Lelorgne de Savigny as the authority in classification of vegetables and also in taxonomy in zoology. <br /><br />[Marie Jules César Lelorgne de Savigny] and [Marie Jules César Lelorgne de Savigny unknown facts]<br /><br /><a href="https://archives.seine-et-marne.fr/marie-jules-cesar-lelorgne-de-savigny-1777-1851" rel="nofollow"> is a French naturalist .</a><br /><br />He was mentioned on the Darwin Correspondence Project<br /><br /><a href="https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/DCP-LETT-251.xml" rel="nofollow">To J. S. Henslow1 24 July – 7 November 1834</a> : Lobularia alcyonium<br /><br /><a href="https://www.wickedlocal.com/article/20100413/NEWS/304139400" rel="nofollow">Ospreys live on every continent except Antarctica. They are unique, the only members of their scientific genus, Pandion. The French naturalist, Marie Jules César Lelorgne de Savigny, decided on this name – from mythology – a King of Athens. Haliaetus is the species name, meaning “a sea eagle.”</a>Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-77898820032502265412019-10-23T17:45:51.249-07:002019-10-23T17:45:51.249-07:00I believe Savigny was drawing himself the rough sk...I believe Savigny was drawing himself the rough sketches, and supervising the final drawings and engravings. On the plate itself, it can be read "par J.-Cés. Savigny." ("par" is French for "by"), and "Tresca sc.ᵗ" ("sc.ᵗ" is the abbreviation of the Latin "sculpit", meaning "engraved").<br /><br />Several webpages have other engravings with the description "engraving by Tresca after a drawing by Savigny".Luís Miguel Viterbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13198394145108636883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-82050475933968825412019-10-23T16:11:17.190-07:002019-10-23T16:11:17.190-07:00So I've sent a mail to the Louvre 😁So I've sent a mail to the Louvre 😁Jean-Christophe Cachathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580901269932878556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-62045676203355579552019-10-23T16:10:29.568-07:002019-10-23T16:10:29.568-07:00Google Lens/Wikipedia/Musée du Louvre
I've go...Google Lens/Wikipedia/Musée du Louvre<br /><br />I've got two names as creators of the source :<br />- Salvatore Tresca <br />https://fr.muzeo.com/reproduction-oeuvre/description-de-legypte-zoologie-crustace-homard/salvatore-tresca<br />- Jule Cesar Savigny<br />https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Description_de_l%27%C3%89gypte<br />Volume 2<br />Une planche Zoologie, animaux invertébrés, céphalopodes par Jules-César Savigny<br />Trois planches Zoologie, animaux invertébrés, gastéropodes par Jules-César Savigny<br />14 planches Zoologie, animaux invertébrés, coquilles par Jules-César Savigny<br />Cinq planches Zoologie, animaux invertébrés, annélides par Jules-César Savigny<br />13 planches Zoologie, animaux invertébrés, crustacés par Jules-César SavignyJean-Christophe Cachathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580901269932878556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-17501544665659576612019-10-23T16:01:40.143-07:002019-10-23T16:01:40.143-07:00With Google Lens in Google Photos and Wikipedia an...With Google Lens in Google Photos and Wikipedia and Musée du Louvre website I've got two names as creators of the source :<br />- Salvatore Tresca<br />- Jule Cesar Savigny<br />I've sent a mail to the Louvre ... 😁<br />Jean-Christophe Cachathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580901269932878556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-31898817685593774562019-10-23T13:43:18.827-07:002019-10-23T13:43:18.827-07:00meanwhile, elsewhere in the Goo-verse… we bio-bags...meanwhile, elsewhere in the Goo-verse… we bio-bags are screwed…<br /><a href="https://ai.googleblog.com/2019/10/quantum-supremacy-using-programmable.html" rel="nofollow">Our machine performed the target computation in 200 seconds, and from measurements in our experiment we determined that it would take the world’s fastest supercomputer 10,000 years to produce a similar output. </a><br /><a href="https://ai.googleblog.com/" rel="nofollow">an AI blog… search on speed</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-31018807216774637582019-10-23T13:19:22.629-07:002019-10-23T13:19:22.629-07:00N'leon, in Egypt…
hand colored(watercolor) eng...N'leon, in Egypt…<br /><a href="https://www.napoleon-empire.com/iconography/heliopolis-pictures.php?dansletitre=Battle%20of%20Heliopolis" rel="nofollow">hand colored(watercolor) engraving</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.napoleon-empire.com/battles/heliopolis.php" rel="nofollow">Heliopolis was the last victory of the French army in Egypt. </a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Heliopolis_(1800)" rel="nofollow">wiki</a><br /><a href="https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9liopolis_(%C3%89gypte))" rel="nofollow">french wiki</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-62591921967943440532019-10-23T12:21:03.381-07:002019-10-23T12:21:03.381-07:00one description…
1822 - bit of a lag from 1798
not...one description…<br /><a href="https://www.swaen.com/antique-map-of.php?id=19149" rel="nofollow">1822 - bit of a lag from 1798</a><br /><a href="https://imgur.com/a/pXKKMKg" rel="nofollow">not Betty either… but in color…</a><br /><a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/curatorial-departments/drawings-and-prints/materials-and-techniques/printmaking/engraving" rel="nofollow">a process explanation - engraving</a><br /><a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/about-the-met/curatorial-departments/drawings-and-prints/materials-and-techniques/printmaking/etching" rel="nofollow">etching…</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-13083755944056621352019-10-23T12:11:58.680-07:002019-10-23T12:11:58.680-07:00For this Challenge, tried 2 different ways.
In th...For this Challenge, tried 2 different ways.<br /><br />In the first searched by image with my mobile. Results gave images and a name: Lobster illustrated by Edme François Jomard for Description de l'Égypte Histoire Naturelle <br /><br />Then, downloaded the image, upload again on Google Photos and searched with Google Lens:<br /><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Description_de_l%27%C3%89gyptel" rel="nofollow">Description de l'Égypte</a><br /><br />And also vintage illustrations like searching on mobile<br /><br />Searched [ Edme François Jomard for Description de l'Égypte Histoire Naturelle] and translated lobster to French: Homard adding it to the query<br /><br /><a href="https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/jomard1809bd5_1_1" rel="nofollow">Jomard, Edme François</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.polytechnique.edu/bibliotheque/fr/jomard-et-la-description-de-legypte" rel="nofollow">French: Jomard and the Description of Egypt</a><br /><br />Also found this, yet haven't found the lobster<br /><br /><a href="https://www.edition-originale.com/fr/oeuvres-dart/description-de-legypte/-description-de-legypte-botanique-1809-26423" rel="nofollow">DESCRIPTION DE L'EGYPTE</a><br /><br />Still need to find images and also the name of the "lobster" Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-35821721807434835792019-10-23T12:03:37.929-07:002019-10-23T12:03:37.929-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-35874190928837364192019-10-23T07:20:19.373-07:002019-10-23T07:20:19.373-07:00… alas, more than 5…
one way
another way
wiki - se...… alas, more than 5…<br /><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yyxh48z5" rel="nofollow">one way</a><br /><a href="https://tinyurl.com/yxqlbytt" rel="nofollow">another way</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Jules_C%C3%A9sar_Savigny" rel="nofollow">wiki - see [1] - is that the crazy part?</a><br /><a href="https://www.azgardens.com/product/neon-red-freshwater-lobster/" rel="nofollow">meanwhile, in AZ</a><br /><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_campaign_in_Egypt_and_Syria" rel="nofollow">the French</a><br /><a href="https://napoleon.lindahall.org/sacred_ibis.shtml" rel="nofollow">scientific expedition…</a><br /><a href="https://www.napoleon.org/en/young-historians/napodoc/bonaparte-in-egypt-2-the-scientific-expedition/" rel="nofollow"> Bonaparte </a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-23120084428461177272019-10-23T06:33:40.988-07:002019-10-23T06:33:40.988-07:00This was one of your easier ones - it took no more...This was one of your easier ones - it took no more than 1 minute. <br /><br />I did a quick search on Bing Images - which wasn't much good. I then switched to Yandex Images and Google Images. Yandex gave the following: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq0wG_W1yCmZh4FsBjlk1gpQQ25qOQ - the first two images are the same but the second one looks more likely (especially as it has the odd lines on the bottom left). Google was mostly stock photos or sites for buying old prints so not much use. Yandex gave this: https://www.swaen.com/item.php?id=19149 which gives the following back-story. <br /><br />"Decorative engraving of a lobster, by Tresca. Marie Jules César Lelorgne de Savigny (April 5, 1777 - October 5, 1851) was a French zoologist. In 1798 he traveled to Egypt with the Emperor Napoleon as part of the French scientific expedition to that country, and contributed to the publication of the findings of the expedition in 1809 (Description de l'Égypte published more fully in 1822). He wrote about the fauna in the Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea and discovered that mouth parts of arthropods were transformed extremities.<br />Engraved y Marcet and Leleu.<br />Savigny was responsible, along with Geoffroy Saint-Hilaire, for the zoology sections of the Description de l’Égypte. The plates were engraved between 1805 and 1814, and Savigny contributed all of the ornithology sections and supplemented other sections on vertebrates. The invertebrates are represented on 105 plates with thousands of drawings, all of them from Savigny’s research."<br /><br /><br />Arthur Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213417718516627413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-90717164367382442322019-10-23T06:14:55.288-07:002019-10-23T06:14:55.288-07:00On one of the recent challenges (or is it on Dan R...On one of the recent challenges (or is it on Dan Russell's book?), I found out about Yandex reverse image search. I investigated a little about it and in the past few weeks have been using a Chrome app I subsequently installed and I love: Armin Sebastian's app unimaginatively named <a href="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/search-by-image/cnojnbdhbhnkbcieeekonklommdnndci" rel="nofollow">Search by Image</a>. So now I have been searching images on several reverse engines at once (and Yandex is indeed among the best).<br /><br />That's what I did for this picture, and Yandex was, once again, on the mouche. Its second result on "Similar images" is just what we're looking for, a very descriptive page about this engraving, as a lot on an auction in a specialized house in UK dealing with antique maps, old prints, and medieval manuscripts. The auction and gallery house is Paulus Swaen (by Pierre Joppen).<br /><br />Here's the page: <a href="https://www.swaen.com/item.php?id=19149" rel="nofollow">https://www.swaen.com/item.php?id=19149</a>. Just follow the link and you'll find all about this lobster, including the backstory (which is crazy indeed).<br /><br />If this is the answer, it's probably the fastest challenge I answered here (thanks to Yandex and Search by Image; and ultimately to Dan Russell).Luís Miguel Viterbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13198394145108636883noreply@blogger.com