tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post6479734210419544417..comments2024-03-28T12:31:21.785-07:00Comments on SearchReSearch: Search Challenge (9/30/15): Thinking outside the boxDan Russellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-91125017693895609982015-10-04T19:30:10.233-07:002015-10-04T19:30:10.233-07:00a bit off topic, but still about comparative infor...a bit off topic, but still about comparative information analysis exercises…<br />for some Sunday grins - makes about as much sense as American football in Wembley Stadium…<br />some further W|A tests - seems to show the problem with generically & specifically identifying images…<br />#s 3 - 9 may appeal to Dan's Parisian experience…<br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/1c7nk4ejs0z9r" rel="nofollow">•#1</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/1kdutt2z6ohec" rel="nofollow">•#2</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/1wp8usr6a5b35" rel="nofollow">•#3</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0f07id0or3wac" rel="nofollow">•#4</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/11zx27qb6njo4" rel="nofollow">•#5</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/05zm3n595tcdd" rel="nofollow">•#6</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0h9pvckhhh46v" rel="nofollow">•#7</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0aak6qv5xwcty" rel="nofollow">•#8</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/1xfhq4maqvr57" rel="nofollow">•#9 - confusing similarity to Charlie</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/1o74xhq6y6i6s" rel="nofollow">•#10 - surprisingly close, but no cigar (Lactophrys triqueter, smooth trunkfish, Cozumel)</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/14xek7lq3ppkx" rel="nofollow">•#11 - unfair cigar</a><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptids" rel="nofollow">and for future reference — chupacabras and all</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-44933387570816553062015-10-03T09:53:40.688-07:002015-10-03T09:53:40.688-07:00Thanks for the links and comments, Remmij. I didn&...Thanks for the links and comments, Remmij. I didn't know about "goat milk poundage differential", that is very interesting. I tried other topics about that and yes, goats are incredible. I like the tests you did on W|A. For what I see, project works when in image has something very clear. Audio learning is algo cool. <br /><br />As you say, Challenge is always fun and entertaining. Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-24529098230424055722015-10-03T08:06:10.110-07:002015-10-03T08:06:10.110-07:00I remember from a few years ago the Google Public ...I remember from a few years ago the Google Public data site.<br />I go there and enter [population] as a search term<br /><br /><br />5th option is the World Resources Institute – go into that and I can select North Korea and South Korea to compare on a chart<br /><br />Result is here - <br /><br />http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=cjsdgb406s3np_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=population&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:90:91&ifdim=country:region:-2&ind=false<br /><br /><br />I'm struggling with the other 2 questions to do quickly so am obviously missing something. You can compare portfolios in Google Finance so perhaps that works. But seems complicated.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03024498995853851022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-22522963124150010012015-10-02T20:34:52.443-07:002015-10-02T20:34:52.443-07:00Ramón - goats may be the new cats…<a href="https://twitter.com/SassyyGoats" rel="nofollow">Ramón - goats may be the new cats…</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-68484195748643931992015-10-02T19:35:55.806-07:002015-10-02T19:35:55.806-07:00[chart korean population]
1 http://www.tradingeco...[chart korean population]<br /><br />1 http://www.tradingeconomics.com/<br /><br /><br />[chart market cap apple ibm google]<br /><br />2 http://www.statista.com/statistics/216657/market-capitalization-of-us-tech-and-internet-companies/<br /><br />[chart whales blue gray sperm shark]<br /><br />3 http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/whales/alphawhales.shtml<br /><br />All this took less than 2 minutes. I must be learning somethings. This is great stuff.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />jon tUjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-3842505027073993362015-10-02T17:04:21.459-07:002015-10-02T17:04:21.459-07:00agree, the selection process is curious and the ch...agree, the selection process is curious and the challenge daunting…<br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/14caqgm2fmsw2" rel="nofollow">can't verify salinity levels</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0kb0qy1z0qm21" rel="nofollow">hominid</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0qqupo9omamvz" rel="nofollow">let's hope not</a><br />from: (nice view of Miami too…)<br /><a href="https://twitter.com/StationCDRKelly" rel="nofollow">overview</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/00h1zs6le2ih9" rel="nofollow">would keep the goats guessing</a><br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0koke5pqbrmcy" rel="nofollow">chupawhawhat</a><br />related tool/interface story<br /><a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/02/apple-acquires-speech-technology-startup-vocaliq/" rel="nofollow">audio learning</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-48373381689655298062015-10-02T16:59:54.126-07:002015-10-02T16:59:54.126-07:00I finally understood your comment: Do you label th...I finally understood your comment: Do you label the "chupacabra" but not the "humanoid" in a picture? " Yes, you are right, we label all subjects in an image. Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-2861164539285508172015-10-02T16:54:47.480-07:002015-10-02T16:54:47.480-07:00Glad that you tried Remmij.
For what I read, Dr. ...Glad that you tried Remmij.<br /><br />For what I read, Dr. Russell, they said that the system learns as also does Google Photos. I think as the whale is the bigger subject in photo, that was the one labeled. Don't know if project has some options to add more labels. <br /><br />I agree with you that labels can be a problem. Also a great help for many situations in which maybe we don't have a clue about what is in the photo.<br /><br />About the label question, don't know if you ask Remmij, me or it is just a comment about labels. <br /><br />I searched about goats in Mexico. Apparently, economic crisis in the 90's was the cause for the lower number. <br /><br />Have great weekend and October.Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-19146887506283916202015-10-02T16:28:47.674-07:002015-10-02T16:28:47.674-07:00But it's also interesting that it did NOT labe...But it's also interesting that it did NOT label "Diver" or "Human" (or, "ocean") in that pic. A hard problem with such systems is knowing what gets a label, and what doesn't. Do you label the "chupacabra" but not the "humanoid" in a picture? (Or vice versa...) Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-53642970056733880002015-10-02T15:33:53.716-07:002015-10-02T15:33:53.716-07:00another W|A AI test:
positive on the Dan/Heather T...another W|A AI test:<br /><a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/result/1gs73bzdniuc0" rel="nofollow">positive on the Dan/Heather Traher Whale Shark pic</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-69889230832113867132015-10-02T12:26:32.504-07:002015-10-02T12:26:32.504-07:00…search can be a long and winding - not always 5 m...…search can be a long and winding - not always 5 minute - road — I need to work on my sRs discipline, as I am prone to wander… but not quite now, too entertaining… <br /><i>"Another New Tool: identify any image and the link to the tool, did you know about it? "</i>… no Ramón, IDNKT - you are removing the W|A scales from my eyes… gracias!<br />…perhaps Mr. W. is a polymath?<br /><a href="https://twitter.com/stephen_wolfram" rel="nofollow">Stephen W does some interesting - many beyond my comprehension - things</a><br /><a href="http://products.wolframalpha.com/referenceapps/" rel="nofollow">in the tailored tool category - the influence of mobile</a><br />as DrD has noted before, image identification/recognition is difficult, but progress is happening… some images I had on my desktop…<br /><a href="http://postimg.org/image/uscdz9d4r/" rel="nofollow">some success ( 2, lower right)</a><br />a partial success:<br /><a href="http://www.railpictures.net/photo/548709" rel="nofollow">Vladimir Lenin's funeral train</a><br /><br />Goatram|Alpha?<br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=weight+of+50+gallons+of+goat+milk+vs+50+gallons+cow+milk" rel="nofollow">goat milk poundage differential - who knew?</a><br />…tried camel, seal & whale milk too, but goat was the only one that seemed to return 'vs' results…<br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427er5pc5cgutj" rel="nofollow">Goo class A, over time</a><br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427estrpvbbu1a" rel="nofollow">interesting that this came up as a related query when I looked at Chupacabras -<br /><i>"The chupacabra is a legendary creature rumored to inhabit parts of the Americas and known for allegedly attacking and drinking the blood of livestock, especially <b>goats</b>"</i></a><br /><br />fwiw - was curious about 'LostinGallus'<br /><a href="http://www.oucom.ohiou.edu/dbms-witmer/Downloads/2010_Hieronymus_and_Witmer_bird_beaks.pdf" rel="nofollow">⌘F LostinGallus - the structure of beaks, in some detail…</a><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Gallusviertel" rel="nofollow">perhaps Frankfurt</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-61516139353358833702015-10-02T08:03:11.927-07:002015-10-02T08:03:11.927-07:00Good day, Dr. Russell, Remmij and everyone. Sorry ...Good day, Dr. Russell, Remmij and everyone. Sorry for the duplicate post with the answers.<br /><br />Thanks to you, Remmij. Wolfram|Alpha Clip ’n Share was also new for me. And your links as always very interesting. With them:<br /><br />I wanted to know if Google Now also answered with Wolfram. <br /><br />[WolframAlpha Google now] very interesting articles. Then Search Tools, past year.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/13/8603531/wolfram-image-identification-site-trained-by-chewbacca" rel="nofollow">Another New Tool: identify any image</a> and the <a href="https://www.imageidentify.com/" rel="nofollow">link to the tool</a>, did you know about it? <br /><br />With [France Goat population] link, tried the classic [Mexico Goat population] and [France Mexico Goat Population] Really interesting results. What happened to goats in Mexico? Maybe the "Chupacabras"? Also didn't know France had so much Turkeys. Thanks Remmij :) Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-72879810048599033892015-10-01T19:49:21.761-07:002015-10-01T19:49:21.761-07:00I had a quick look at the World Bank Data and it p...I had a quick look at the World Bank Data and it provides a chart, a map and you can download data. I chose 50 years. http://databank.worldbank.org/data/reports.aspx?source=world-development-indicators&Type=TABLERosemary Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291661159622665464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-45310046128800242682015-10-01T18:00:45.112-07:002015-10-01T18:00:45.112-07:00Wolfram|Alpha Clip ’n Share — another Wölf Ram Alf...Wolfram|Alpha Clip ’n Share — another Wölf Ram Alfalfa feature I was unaware of - thanks for pointing it out, Ramón…<br />don't know what happened to my wed. post - was also WA/Siri related - off in the ionosphere/eMdomosHaidou I guess.<br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e1ubksctkh5" rel="nofollow">chèvres françaises</a><br /><a href="http://blog.wolframalpha.com/2012/08/03/introducing-wolframalpha-clip-n-share-share-your-results-on-social-media-networks/" rel="nofollow">3 years ago, a little different now…</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-87917906338834024772015-10-01T16:09:27.064-07:002015-10-01T16:09:27.064-07:00Yes! This is what happens when i do this at luncht...Yes! This is what happens when i do this at lunchtime in our library (with about 300+ students in attendance!). Here is the link with the saved chart included- <br />https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ef5qTgL4ZBoJVuZNNReo1RzUwu36nZVI18hLYkSCze8/edit?usp=sharingDebra Gottslebenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08074610468240387547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-89839594054724229012015-10-01T12:59:18.419-07:002015-10-01T12:59:18.419-07:00Hope this post is not repeated: Very interesting k...Hope this post is not repeated: Very interesting knowing how to answer Challenge. <br /><br /><b> Answers </b><br /><br />1. Can you create a chart showing the difference in the populations between North and South Korea since 1970? (Just a simple line graph would be fine, thanks.) <br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427ea29noqn9uk" rel="nofollow">Population</a><br /><br />2. Can you compute the market cap, total revenue, and number of outstanding shares for each of the companies IBM, Apple, Google, and Xerox? <br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427evb7cn8560t" rel="nofollow">Companies</a><br /><br />3. Having recently dived in the Caribbean, I'm really interested in whale sharks. Can you quickly compare blue whales, gray whales, sperm whales, and whale sharks in terms of (a) lifespan, (b) maximum length, (c) weight? (Just the facts, ma'am.) <br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e7ak03jmg8d" rel="nofollow">Whale Sharks</a> Interesting that they call Physeter catodon and not Sperm WhaleRamon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-72497863114177648562015-10-01T10:06:35.075-07:002015-10-01T10:06:35.075-07:00After reading Jerry post and searching for the ans...After reading Jerry post and searching for the answers to the Challenge; I searched for alternatives to Wolfram. Found some alternatives for step by step solutions and also new ways and things to search. Great to have this new SearchReSearch Skill. Have some of you worked with the app?<br /><br />Also it is good to remember that we can compare some things with Google, like fruits, dogs and others with simple queries like [cocker spaniel vs labrador] Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-45707100281960675582015-10-01T08:02:32.193-07:002015-10-01T08:02:32.193-07:00Alas, I won't be in London... but I DO hope to...Alas, I won't be in London... but I DO hope to make it to Internet-librarian in Monterey. Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-40165385669803485022015-10-01T08:02:04.215-07:002015-10-01T08:02:04.215-07:00Welcome back!
WRT your doc--did you mean to incl...Welcome back! <br /><br />WRT your doc--did you mean to include a chart in that? Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-37244347053240021162015-10-01T07:53:29.363-07:002015-10-01T07:53:29.363-07:00Well after a long hiatus Anne and I are back! We w...Well after a long hiatus Anne and I are back! We were both busy over summer and thought we'd get back into the swing of things once school started. It has been crazy but today we actually had a few minutes. Our chart for question 1 can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ef5qTgL4ZBoJVuZNNReo1RzUwu36nZVI18hLYkSCze8/edit?usp=sharing<br />To get our data we did a search using terms- population north korea 1970-2015. We got a lot of hits. Went to the site http://www.bluemarblecitizen.com/people/census-world-North-Korea While the site had the info we needed we couldn't find out enough about the site to verify whether it was credible. We noticed that they used stats from the US Census international database. http://www.census.gov/population/international/data/idb/informationGateway.php So we went to that site and found that you could search for up to 25 years worth of data and search several countries at once. So we selected 1970-2015 and then Korea, North and South. We got the results (we elected to have them show aggregated and individual data) and then took this information and pasted into google sheets. We created the chart there. Even with interruptions (we are working with a class right now) we did this in probably about 3 or 4 mins. Debra Gottslebenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08074610468240387547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-27293284565791034562015-10-01T05:18:14.217-07:002015-10-01T05:18:14.217-07:00Wolfram Alpha was also my first stop. It took much...<br />Wolfram Alpha was also my first stop. It took much less than 5 minutes and it's a perfect example to use for my talk at WebSearch Academy in London on 19 October. If you're in London, Dan, drop by! internet-librarian.comMarydeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02120510264584910740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-50443681790941922592015-10-01T02:25:48.713-07:002015-10-01T02:25:48.713-07:00Hey everyone
1. Query inside google: "popula...Hey everyone<br /><br />1. Query inside google: "population growth north korea" showed me this google page with public information that is just amazing to play with : http://goo.gl/2VF9wd <br />2. Query inside google finance: the Three Stock names show these fundamental informations<br />3. Query inside wolfram alpha: just the name of the animal. you can even compare them LostinGallushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15665833738708883866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-68210048400807469342015-09-30T18:51:18.070-07:002015-09-30T18:51:18.070-07:00Not quite but my quick search was to Google Public...Not quite but my quick search was to Google Public Data Explorer. Unfortunately Korea is showing under one name.<br /><br />http://bit.ly/srs_Sept_30_2015<br /><br />Second quick look - not quite right either was Google Finance - http://bit.ly/srs_Sept_30_2015_Markets<br /><br />And last quick look Query shark facts Whale Shark http://www.sharks-world.com/shark_species/ states...<br /><br />The whale shark is the biggest of all shark species. Adults are at least 25 feet long and they can be up to 45 feet in length.<br /><br />That's it - 5 minutes.<br />Rosemary Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291661159622665464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-12284619777509163142015-09-30T14:15:11.929-07:002015-09-30T14:15:11.929-07:00agree, well done Mr. Hill - it'll be interesti...agree, well done Mr. Hill - it'll be interesting to see if the DMR solution follows this path… - this approach/method seems to fill the bill… the sad thing is Wolfram Alpha is on my toolbar and it never even occurred to use it…<br />wonder if <a href="http://www.imore.com/how-get-wolframalpha-results-using-siri" rel="nofollow">Siri</a> would return the same?<br /><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/10-cool-things-you-can-do-with-wolfram-alpha-and-siri/" rel="nofollow">Wolfram prefix</a><br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=what%27s+the+best+smartphone+ever%3F" rel="nofollow">most curious</a><br /><a href="https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=five%20mihute%20timer" rel="nofollow">300"'</a><br /><a href="http://postimg.org/image/z7gspbzyf/" rel="nofollow">0s, my time has expired… multiple times</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-61696268468430093662015-09-30T14:14:39.685-07:002015-09-30T14:14:39.685-07:00You are right, Luis. Thanks Jerry for your post an...You are right, Luis. Thanks Jerry for your post and Dr. Russell for the Challenge. I knew and tried Wolfram but never like this. <br /><br />There:<br /><br />[South Korea North Korea population history] and in the results we have options to download, share and others<br />[Google, Xerox, Apple, IBM]<br />[blue whales, gray whales, sperm whales, whale sharks] .<br /><br /><b> Answers </b><br /><br />1. Can you create a chart showing the difference in the populations between North and South Korea since 1970? (Just a simple line graph would be fine, thanks.) <br /><br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427ea29noqn9uk" rel="nofollow">Population</a><br /><br />2. Can you compute the market cap, total revenue, and number of outstanding shares for each of the companies IBM, Apple, Google, and Xerox? <br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427evb7cn8560t" rel="nofollow">Companies</a><br /><br />3. Having recently dived in the Caribbean, I'm really interested in whale sharks. Can you quickly compare blue whales, gray whales, sperm whales, and whale sharks in terms of (a) lifespan, (b) maximum length, (c) weight? (Just the facts, ma'am.) <br /><a href="http://www.wolframalpha.com/share/clip?f=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e7ak03jmg8d" rel="nofollow">Whale Sharks</a> Interesting that they call Physeter catodon and not Sperm WhaleRamon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.com