tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post210263946978138742..comments2024-03-28T06:19:50.620-07:00Comments on SearchReSearch: Wednesday search challenge (3/27/13): Where can I find a blueblossom in Montaña De Oro?Dan Russellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-70755780670858696772013-03-28T06:34:30.295-07:002013-03-28T06:34:30.295-07:00My final answer is...
I originally did an Image Se...My final answer is...<br />I originally did an Image Search to confirm image source from Wikipedia because other images of the Ceanothus (blueblossom) I found didn't have the rich cobalt/indigo blue blossoms which made me think I had wrong variety.<br />I went back because I do think it's the Concho variety but www.calfora.org doesn't show "concho". It seems that Concho may be used by nurseries for domesticated shrubs of this species. <br />Result-Ceanothus Concho <br />Confirmed at http://www.laspilitas.com/nature-of-california/plants/ceanothus-concha - images match.<br />The closest in color is the "griseus". Ceanothus griseus also known as Carmel falls under the parent Ceanothus thyrsiflorus var. griseus, not Ceanothus thyrsiflorus var thyrsiflorus.<br />Location in Montaña de Oro S.P. is at Mouth of Coon Creek @ 35.259 -120.887<br />Rosemary Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291661159622665464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-63571428758374815902013-03-27T20:46:38.109-07:002013-03-27T20:46:38.109-07:00Coordinates given above is as close as I came as w...Coordinates given above is as close as I came as well. In addition a photo at<br /><br /> http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=35.259462&ln=-120.887096&z=3&k=2&a=1&tab=1&pl=all<br /><br />suggests to me that you should head out to Valencia Peak in Montana de Oro State Park. Landscape in photo looks favorable.<br /><br />I had hoped to find some current photos or reports in the last couple weeks to suggest they are in bloom. Indications are they are normally in bloom by the last week in March. But alas not to be found. No webcams found on Google Maps either, darn. You have me really curious if there is another route to the solution.Rosemary Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291661159622665464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-45435642295863453412013-03-27T18:23:12.984-07:002013-03-27T18:23:12.984-07:00It will take a day or two for me to get out there....It will take a day or two for me to get out there. It's time I visited again. I'l post pictures and a description of what I find. Thanks for the motivation to get me out there. GRayRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11355369343845540787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-83621946624740402512013-03-27T17:01:58.515-07:002013-03-27T17:01:58.515-07:00Hi Dr. Russell. I tried to find an answer that cov...Hi Dr. Russell. I tried to find an answer that covers your words: "Once you figure out the method, you’ll be able to answer this question quickly. (And you’ll know instantly that this is the way to solve all such challenges."<br /><br />For that, I tried searching things like habitat, weather and things like that with not luck. Just found a map in wikipedia with natural range of one of the "Ceanothus". I'll keep searching and read your answer tomorrow.Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-73467651369283197082013-03-27T14:06:24.700-07:002013-03-27T14:06:24.700-07:00Be sure to let us know what you find! Be sure to let us know what you find! Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-45276037157181632892013-03-27T14:04:32.472-07:002013-03-27T14:04:32.472-07:00Good catch. While the AGoogleADay.com website has...Good catch. While the AGoogleADay.com website has a time-machine capability, this website doesn't. (I wasn't able to get the dilithium temporal distoric modulators to work correctly.) Thanks for the find. I fixed the error. Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-71189634673339207372013-03-27T13:25:30.298-07:002013-03-27T13:25:30.298-07:00just a side observation - Dr. DMR, I know time get...just a side observation - Dr. DMR, I know time gets twisted on the interwob, but did you mean to indicate that today's challenge actually happened last week? — so the answer is already out there somewhere... and that's how we can instantly solve such queries.<br /><i>"Wednesday, March 27, 2013<br />Wednesday search challenge <b>(3/20/13):</b> Where can I find a blueblossom in Montaña De Oro?"</i>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-26622487156262324672013-03-27T13:04:28.607-07:002013-03-27T13:04:28.607-07:00that would be the Dynegy power plant and Morro Roc...that would be the Dynegy power plant and Morro Rock in the distance, both north of Montaña De Oro SP. - nice detective work. The stacks/plant may be replaced with much shorter ones in the future. Current three are 450 feet tall.<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morro_Bay,_California" rel="nofollow">Morro Bay environs</a><br /><a href="http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/North_America/United_States_of_America/California/Morro_Bay-754310/Things_To_Do-Morro_Bay-MISC-BR-1.html" rel="nofollow">Morro sights</a><br /><i>"Morro Rock stands 576 feet tall and marks the entrance to the Morro Bay Harbor. The first European to see Morro Rock was Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo in 1542, and he named it the Morro, or pebble. The rock was originally a natural island, but the northern side was filled in to create the protected Morro Bay Harbor.<br /><br />Morro Rock is the northern most of the nine major peaks that make up the "Nine Sisters." The other peaks are Black Hill, Cabrillo Peak, Hollister Peak, Cerro Romauldo , Chumash Peak, Bishop Peak, San Luis Mountain, and Islay Hill. These nine major peaks along with numerous smaller peaks and hills were created some 20 million years ago in a unique line of volcanic plugs between Morro Bay and San Luis Obispo"</i>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-41642372743181322672013-03-27T12:40:49.897-07:002013-03-27T12:40:49.897-07:00Checked out google maps to see the location of the...Checked out google maps to see the location of the park<br /><br />Then off to the park website to check out a map<br />http://www.parks.ca.gov/MediaGallery/?page_id=592&m=brochures<br />Nothing much out there.<br /><br />Usually the people who are interested enough to upload pictures of flowers also do some research and use the scientific name.So a search for "Ceanothus thyrsiflorus montana de oro" shows up some links<br /><br />Since the question mentions that there is a method, I was looking for some online resource that would possible be useful.<br />iNatualist looks like it could be useful.<br /><br />While it looks like a pretty useful resource:<br />http://www.inaturalist.org/observations?taxon_id=56617<br />In this case, there were no observations near montana de oro<br /><br />Maybe we are being too specific..<br />Searching for "Ceanothus montana de oro" leads to:<br /><br />1. http://calcoastnews.com/2012/11/control-burn-jumps-containment-at-montana-de-oro/<br />We see that there could be some, 1/4 mile away from coon creek trailhead<br /><br />2. http://www.therunnerstrip.com/2011/02/running-californias-central-coast/<br />From here, it looks like it could be close to the cove.<br /><br />So I guess it would be somewhere here:<br />http://goo.gl/maps/LRFPS<br /><br />Took me almost 30 minutes.<br />Hemanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13554986674491896999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-88715144846000746732013-03-27T11:06:44.345-07:002013-03-27T11:06:44.345-07:00["montaña de oro state park" "blueb...["montaña de oro state park" "blueblossom" OR "blue blossom" OR ceanothus -buckbrush]<br />led me to http://plantpropaganda.wordpress.com/tag/montana-de-oro/ and this picture: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7159/6814895627_3aba81e4a9_b.jpg<br /><br />The picture caption reads "... these Ceanothus are covered in happy buzzing bees. Don't know the exact species ...."<br /><br />It's unclear whether these are blueblossoms, but, if they are, I used google earth to triangulate based on the big boulder and three smokestacks in the background, which would put this location somewhere along the north-west coastal portion of the park (and possibly north of the official park boundary): https://www.box.com/shared/cpatjg9ixnod7lhw9jeeAjayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375348242114998158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-44558705555720231952013-03-27T10:36:31.933-07:002013-03-27T10:36:31.933-07:00It appears that not all Ceanothus species are &quo...It appears that not all Ceanothus species are "blueblossoms". See eg this "buckbrush" species (located near Sand Spit Rd at Montana de Oro State Park, per the photographer) which I found by searching [ceanothus montana de oro] in the flickr.com search box. Ajayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375348242114998158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-20499926574373602902013-03-27T10:09:51.593-07:002013-03-27T10:09:51.593-07:00This seems like a good time to just drive out ther...This seems like a good time to just drive out there and see. I live in beautiful San Luis Obispo. I'll check back later. No computer search involved. May take a couple of hours. GRayRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11355369343845540787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-12265332341470066252013-03-27T09:17:02.628-07:002013-03-27T09:17:02.628-07:0035.259462,-120.887096
calflora
calflora obseravati...35.259462,-120.887096<br /><a href="http://www.calflora.org/cgi-bin/species_query.cgi?where-taxon=Ceanothus+thyrsiflorus+var.+griseus" rel="nofollow">calflora</a><br /><a href="http://www.calflora.org/entry/observ.html#search=t&taxon=Ceanothus+thyrsiflorus%20var.%20griseus&checklist=t&cch=t&inat=r&inma=t&cy=35.347&cx=-120.409&z=9&lpcli=t" rel="nofollow">calflora obseravation hotline</a>remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-24398518295599416252013-03-27T08:57:59.635-07:002013-03-27T08:57:59.635-07:00Want to see the blublossom? Walk to the location: ...Want to see the blublossom? Walk to the location: 35.288 -120.816<br /><br />The research:searched inside the calflora site, http://www.calflora.org in the "what grows here" section and one result for the Ceanothus thyrsiflorus (which I learned was the scientific name for the bluebossom) gives the coordinates, here: http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/new_detail.pl?UC1071409 <br />macahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746508150717638886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-7825143580727313662013-03-27T07:57:40.850-07:002013-03-27T07:57:40.850-07:00Dan, Your pix shows ceanothus. Soon as I saw the ...Dan, Your pix shows ceanothus. Soon as I saw the image I thought that was what is and when you said its called California Lilac that was the clincher.<br /><br />My system from here was to punch into SEARCH [montana de oro ceanothus] which brought up http://calcoastnews.com/2012/11/control-burn-jumps-containment-at-montana-de-oro/; An article describing a controlled burn which got away. Several commenters on the article point out ceanothus growing near the redwoods in the park.<br /><br />1 minute to here, 19 to go...<br /><br />The official park website says nothing about it. Jepson Manual mentions the plant but not where is grows specifically in that park. iNaturalist was no help either. Jepson Herbarium has way too many listing for different varieties.<br /><br />Time's up. Off to breakfast<br /><br />jon<br /><br />jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-11338456633690911682013-03-27T07:38:23.015-07:002013-03-27T07:38:23.015-07:00The very southeast corner of the park, where it di...The very southeast corner of the park, where it dips into Diablo Canyon should provide a great view of blue blossoms. <br /><br />A search for "blue blossom" "montana de oro" turned up pbadupws.nrc.gov/docs/ML1025/ML102581112.pdf. This document is a wildfire management plan for the region around the Diablo Canyon power plant. A search within the document shows that the slopes on the north side of Diablo Canyon are made up of blue blossom chapparal.<br /><br />A look at the map with the terrain turned on shows that the SE corner of the SP intersects with Diablo Canyon. Switching from map to satellite confirms the vegetation type as chapparal.Nathanaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07741243434413290943noreply@blogger.com