tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post3153512939525020253..comments2024-03-28T18:39:59.184-07:00Comments on SearchReSearch: SearchResearch Challenge (8/27/20): Find a time-lapse MAP of wildfire growth in California? Dan Russellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-33408368150448725402020-09-08T15:53:23.340-07:002020-09-08T15:53:23.340-07:00Yes - it was slow. And I was worried that the boun...Yes - it was slow. And I was worried that the boundaries were the same. However there were small differences so I thought it was a reflection of the actual situation. (Such fires are weird to me in the UK so I've never looked at such maps before. Makes it harder to know what I'm seeing). <br /><br />However there is a lesson anyway - it's always worth checking the Wayback machine for something that's regularly changing. It works for Covid-19 cases for example at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/. But also to wary if it includes some sort of live database feed. Arthur Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213417718516627413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-75074666645691903692020-09-08T14:19:41.737-07:002020-09-08T14:19:41.737-07:00This is awesome! Thanks.
Do you remember the s...This is awesome! Thanks. <br /><br />Do you remember the search you did to find this? Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-36553722560043716682020-09-08T13:17:01.096-07:002020-09-08T13:17:01.096-07:00Hi there! Interestingly, when I try these links, I...Hi there! Interestingly, when I try these links, I get the old frame (i.e., from the 16th or 19th), but the fire data seems to be current. I suspect that the code is pulling from the live data stream, even if the web page is marked as Aug 16. (It's also incredibly slow.) Did you notice this as well? Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-15646821928065463612020-09-03T13:17:08.582-07:002020-09-03T13:17:08.582-07:00I think this is a progression map too:
http://fir...I think this is a progression map too:<br /><br />http://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/current/jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-6772818803080779972020-08-28T05:47:52.531-07:002020-08-28T05:47:52.531-07:00With [California wildfires 2020 progression animat...With [California wildfires 2020 progression animation]<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o58Te06fOkw" rel="nofollow">Animated Maps: California Wildfires from 1910-2019 - YouTube</a>Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-21872776734359000462020-08-27T21:33:29.898-07:002020-08-27T21:33:29.898-07:00I found one ... kinda-sorta.
I live near where Da...I found one ... kinda-sorta.<br /><br />I live near where Dan lives, so I already had a collection of fire maps. One has a widget at the bottom that lets you progress over the days. I decided to try to reverse engineer the situation and try to find what I already had.<br /><br />I started with [california fire map multi-day] and other variants on the last term (including "tracker" which Google itself suggested but which seems to equate to "real-time" in practice). I clicked into several of the search results, many of which were familiar but none of which had the day-picking widget I was looking for.<br /><br />So I cheated. I brought up my browser window with all of my fire tabs and found the right one. It was https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/california-fire-map/2020-czu-august-lightning-complex , and I noticed for the first time that on loading the page it animated through all the days in the display widget. Even closer to what Dan was looking for than I'd realized! So I went back to my search results and looked for this site, a page from the local newspaper San Francisco Chronicle. I found that all of my searches had come up with the parent page from the Chron. But now the page, https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/california-fire-map/ , has a different mechanism for picking what fire you want to look at, and there's no longer the day-picker at the bottom. The page I had saved seems to be an obsolete child page that corresponds to the fire closest to me, and that has some functionality that the uber-page no longer supports.<br /><br />The search lessons that I take from this are <br />(a) hoarding is a good thing, and<br />(b) sites change, and something that used to be there last week might not be there anymore. Perhaps Dan can address how to deal with delving into the history of webpages.Terry Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03541482617360734107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-88863069507971155122020-08-27T15:26:34.668-07:002020-08-27T15:26:34.668-07:00This was the top hit on my search of [CZU fire ani...This was the top hit on my search of [CZU fire animation]<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/SanJose/comments/ignqt2/czu_and_scu_lightning_complex_fire_animation_aug/almadenmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12636400853368185828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-14963650959325385892020-08-27T14:27:09.930-07:002020-08-27T14:27:09.930-07:00This may already exists as maps from Argis for the...This may already exists as maps from Argis for the same areas are on the Wayback machine. <br /><br />e.g https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://napsg.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6dc469279760492d802c7ba6db45ff0e&extent=-13811257.6117%2C4540820.1658%2C-13481049.6495%2C4756984.0818%2C102100<br /><br />This one doesn't go back to the 16th - it starts on the 19th. Also it's showing the evacuation zone so the differences seem small. What worries me is the wind-speeds seem to be the same and differences appear small so maybe the script used to generate the maps was not recorded properly. Not knowing how this site works means I can't properly evaluate it without spending a lot more time to understand what the maps are indicating. <br /><br />There are maps for other dates - including the 16th August and earlier e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20200816083939/https://napsg.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6dc469279760492d802c7ba6db45ff0e&query=Initial_Attack_Form_2_Public_View_Layer_4057%2Cobjectid=1331 is for the 16th. <br /><br />Arthur Weisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10213417718516627413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-24094945323267869352020-08-27T14:23:42.380-07:002020-08-27T14:23:42.380-07:00[Progression map] is the key. Here be another one
...[Progression map] is the key. Here be another one<br /><br />https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/SCU-time-lapse-v2.gifjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-32194263548158347732020-08-27T14:15:10.042-07:002020-08-27T14:15:10.042-07:00I believe I found it on Twitter
https://twitter.c...I believe I found it on Twitter<br /><br />https://twitter.com/i/status/1299076539540103169<br /><br />They call it "Progression maps" the maps are toward the end and are dated.<br /><br />I followed a link on https://data.desertsun.com/fires/incident/7028/czu-august-lightning-complex/ and found the mapjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-90381166198388426592020-08-27T13:43:12.952-07:002020-08-27T13:43:12.952-07:00Right source but not quite there yet: [natural haz...<br />Right source but not quite there yet: [natural hazards noaa] <br /><br /> https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/global-maps/MOD14A1_M_FIRE<br /><br />from that there is a link to the MODIS which has more almost the right stuff<br /><br />https://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/ They call fire "MODIS Thermal Anomalies<br /><br />From there I gave up. Too technical for my brain cell.jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-76044955486345567142020-08-27T12:02:31.716-07:002020-08-27T12:02:31.716-07:00[California fires 2020 map timelapse]
California ...[California fires 2020 map timelapse]<br /><br /><a href="https://www.sfchronicle.com/projects/california-fire-map/" rel="nofollow">California Fire Map & Tracker</a><br /><br />[california fires 2020 map day by day<br /><br /><a href="https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/wildfire/map-where-california-wildfires-are-live-maps/103-cc0c1d24-6e67-4f63-a37e-7fece2a69a14" rel="nofollow">3 Live Maps : Where the wildfires are burning in California right now</a><br /><br />[California fires 2020 site:maps.google.com]<br />[California fires 2020 extent timelapse]<br /><br /><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/08/20/us/california-wildfire-maps.html" rel="nofollow">NY Times</a><br /><br />[california fires 2020 satellite view timelapse]<br /><br /><a href="https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2020/nasa-s-suomi-npp-satellite-highlights-california-wildfires-at-night/" rel="nofollow">NASA</a><br /><br />Not what we are looking for. Good maps. <br /><br />On Twitter, searched using #CaliforniaWildfires<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/NOAASatellitePA" rel="nofollow">NOAA</a> Then [#californiawildfires @NOAASatellitePA]<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/AmazingSpace2/status/1297647279382372353" rel="nofollow">A time-lapse</a>Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.com