tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post8131755297245457827..comments2023-10-03T01:46:10.435-07:00Comments on SearchReSearch: Wednesday search challenge (09/18/13): Who is my great-great-great-great-great-great-great advisor? Dan Russellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-49283492407185176412013-09-19T10:22:22.991-07:002013-09-19T10:22:22.991-07:00I eventually found the Mathematics Genealogy Proje...I eventually found the Mathematics Genealogy Project too and just wanted to add that I continued following your advisor lineage up the tree clicking on names I had heard about in Engineering school and picking one at random where two were listed and I did not know either.<br /><br />I eventually got to Copernicus! That was fun!<br /><br />Nicolaus Copernicus > Moritz Steinmetz > Christoph Meurer > Philipp Müller > Erhard Weigel > Gottfried Leibniz > Nicolas Malebranche > Jacob Bernoulli > Johann Bernoulli > Leonhard Euler > Joseph Lagrange > Simeon Denis Poisson > Michel Chasles > H. A. Newton > E. H. Moore > Oswald Veblen > Philip Franklin > Alan Jay Perlis > Jerome Arthur Feldman > Daniel Martin RussellRafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16908679868283927286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-59469233430597272502013-09-19T06:05:57.731-07:002013-09-19T06:05:57.731-07:00I'm impressed you found that comment about wor...I'm impressed you found that comment about working with other Feldman students. Now THAT's research! Dan Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13603209997260423532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-5422984011813389832013-09-19T05:00:15.417-07:002013-09-19T05:00:15.417-07:00Hi Dan,
sounds like you had a great holiday.
I sta...Hi Dan,<br />sounds like you had a great holiday.<br />I started off by visiting your university's website and searching the thesis title. It's listed but no further info, so then I visited the uni's library catalogue which again listed it and has link to Google Books but info only there - so dead end.<br />Back to main Google I tried ["Schema-based problem solving" Russell]. First few results are no help but 6th result is Mathematics Genealogy Project website which sounds interesting.<br />And here you can go back umpteen generations of supervisors. It really is incredible what people will create.<br />If I counted correctly, we were going back 8 generations to Siméon Denis Poisson.<br /><br />A search for him leads me to Wikipedia article. I'm guessing his coolness qualifications is that he is one of 72 names inscribed on the Eiffel Tower! (on the South east side).<br /><br />Took me about 20 mins.<br />SarahAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03024498995853851022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-7020194330868280542013-09-18T21:18:10.211-07:002013-09-18T21:18:10.211-07:00I got thinking about my reference to Benjamin Fran...I got thinking about my reference to Benjamin Franklin being Philip's father and realized that it can't be "the" man we think of because the time period is not correct. As much as I would like to think your academic lineage could be linked to one of the founding fathers of the US.<br /><br />Despite that I think that intellectual lineage information is "cool" and something I did not know existed. Rosemary Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291661159622665464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-27825098616464086492013-09-18T16:08:48.708-07:002013-09-18T16:08:48.708-07:00Answer - I am listing my answer first and what fol...Answer - I am listing my answer first and what follows afterwards are the various queries I tried. My search thoughts were that if I could find Dr. Russell's thesis he would mention his advisor. While I could find references to the thesis I couldn't access the document. <br /><br />Not knowing anything regarding the doctorate process my next idea was that the University of Rochester would have a list of "thesis advisors". I wasn't able to find a directory of advisors. <br />So the next step was to stop and rethink this challenge. I knew about genealogy and thought it may be a specialized type search. I found the Mathematics Genealogy Project. This was not a quick easy challenge for me. I want others to see my efforts, why I chose those routes, what didn't work and eventually how I figured out a solution. I spent a few hours pulling this together.<br /><br />*Jerome Arthur Feldman (physics & artificial intelligence.*<br />*Alan Jay Perlis (computer sciences -languages)*<br />*Phillip Franklin (Mathematician & father was Benjamin Franklin)*<br />*Oswald Veblen ( projective and differential geometry, and topology)*<br />*E. H. (Eliakim Hastings) Moore (mathematician)*<br />*H. A. (Hubert Anson) Newton (research on meteors)*<br />*Michel Chasles ( algebraic and projective geometry)*<br /><br />START OF MY CHALLENGE<br />Query [ doctoral program site:rochester.edu]<br />Query [ "Schema-based Problem Solving" 1985 russell]<br />Query [ inauthor:"Daniel Martin Russell"]<br />Google Books - no preview<br />Query [ published thesis site:cs.rochester.edu "daniel russell"]<br />Query [ site:cs.rochester.edu publication "daniel russell"]<br />Russell, Dan (PhD ‘85) has recently moved to Google. "He writes that his job is incredibly exciting and that the average age at Google is 28, making him “a true grey beard” there. He also says he’s working with FOUR other {Jerry Feldman} advisees on his immediate team"<br /><br />Query [Jerry Feldman University of Rochester]<br />http://www.icsi.berkeley.edu/icsi/people/feldman<br />http://www.ibiblio.org/mpact/mpact.php?op=show_tree&id=8573 -shows thesis & advisor/advisee graph<br /><br />Result Title: Schema-based problem-solving: an investigation into using recombinations of pre-stored plans in sophisticated ways<br /><br />http://www.cs.rochester.edu/users/phd-degrees.shtml<br /><br />STOP <br />Query [thesis advisor genealogy]<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_genealogy<br />Query [ thesis advisor genealogy university of rochester sciences ]<br />Query http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=115644 {Mathematics Genealogy Project}<br />Rosemary Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12291661159622665464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-60211731797098690192013-09-18T12:27:31.869-07:002013-09-18T12:27:31.869-07:00wow!, did the wheels come off my little search car...wow!, did the wheels come off my little search cart… feel like I should strap on the weight belt and go tankless… or down a couple bottles of Silver Owl and seek a sunset.<br />another way to get to the NDSU site -<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_genealogy" rel="nofollow">wider net</a><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_Genealogy_Project" rel="nofollow">MGP</a><br /><br />an interesting, cautionary tale -<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Vrain-Lucas" rel="nofollow">just the "facts" ma'am</a><br /><br />search on, Danielle… oui?remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-41986406840198256222013-09-18T10:09:41.264-07:002013-09-18T10:09:41.264-07:00Good day, Dr. Russell, fellow SearchResearchers
...Good day, <b> Dr. Russell, fellow SearchResearchers </b><br /><br />Searched:<br /><br />Daniel M Russell advisors site:cs.rochester.edu<br /><br />Found: http://www.cs.rochester.edu/dept/newsletter/newsletter-2005.pdf and there ctrl F "Russell" found Jerry Feldman<br /><br />[Jerry Feldman Rochester]<br />Jerome A. Feldman<br /><br />["Jerry feldman" Rochester University advisors lineage]<br />Found: Feldman's academic tree http://web.engr.illinois.edu/~taoxie/sefamily.htm<br /><br />Found: Alan Perlis<br /> <br />[Alan Perlis academic tree]<br />http://academictree.org/physics/tree.php?pid=50750&fontsize=3&pnodecount=4&cnodecount=2%20sun..<br /><br />Click on Hubert Anson Newton:<br /><br />http://academictree.org/physics/tree.php?pid=50746&fontsize=3&pnodecount=4&cnodecount=2%20sun..<br /><br />Found: Michel Chasles and Anthony D. Stanley<br /><br />["Anthony D. Stanley" yale]<br />[Michel Chasles]<br />Found: http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Chasles.html<br />http://global.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/107813/Michel-Chasles<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chasles<br />http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/biography/Chasles.html (a)<br /><br /><br /><b> Answer </b><br /><br />Who is my (meaning me, Dan Russell's) great-great-great-great-great-great-great advisor? (And why is that an incredibly cool thing to know?) <br />A: I found two. Anthony D. Stanley and Michel Chasles.<br /><br /><b> Michael Chasles: </b><br /><br />- He was called up to take part in the defence of Paris in early 1814.<br />- His name is one of 72 that appears on the Eiffel Tower.<br /><br />-Received "The Copley Medal" in 1865. This is a scientific award given by the Royal Society of London for "outstanding achievements in research in any branch of science.<br /><br />- He was a french mathematician who was one of the last great projective geometers in France. He studied cross-ratios and stated Chasles's theorem: Any motion of a solid body can be composed of a translation and a rotation. Source: (a)<br /><br />- He Published in 1837: "Aperçu historique sur l'origine et le développement des méthodes en géométrie" (Historical view of the origin and development of methods in geometry) still important today. And in 1852 "Traité de géométrie" <br /><br /><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9uTWQGfExsWN085aWxBRDNfR3c/edit?pli=1" rel="nofollow">Daniel M. Russell Academic Tree</a><br />Ramon Gonzalezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129830563029534511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-16228024975766133342013-09-18T09:33:45.307-07:002013-09-18T09:33:45.307-07:00the Bonaire pics are delightful - the lure of the ...the Bonaire pics are delightful - the lure of the deep - Sea Fever<br /><a href="http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/242552" rel="nofollow">John Masefield </a><br />… just a shot in the Doctoral dark - Charles Babbage, FRS?<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage" rel="nofollow">CB</a><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Society" rel="nofollow">Royal Society</a><br />7 generations is an amorphous quantity of time, but Babbage could fall in the range.<br />my alternative <b>guess</b> would be Phineas Taylor Barnum<br /><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Barnum_and_Commodore_Nutt.jpg" rel="nofollow">P.T.& associate</a><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_Nutt" rel="nofollow">CN - married a woman from Redwood City, CA.</a><br />… but can't verify he had a PhD.<br />This is a bit off topic, but the inclusion of the St. James/St.John's graphic from the LoC got me wondering about the organization/access of information on the provider's end… does Google work directly with the LoC and other research organizations to design the framework to make information digitally searchable? the modern day virtual equivalent of Melvil Dewey? the difference between institutional information organization and end user knowledge access… or denial… or inability to locate - and the value of search patterns to disseminators..<br />as I said, a bit off topic, but perhaps other readers may be interested in these items as an appetizer:<br /><a href="http://youtu.be/4bxvtpxa0Co" rel="nofollow">Sensemaking III, DMR, Stanford</a><br /><a href="http://web.mit.edu/comm-forum/mit6/papers/Jakobsson.pdf" rel="nofollow">Google politics, MIT</a><br /><a href="http://www.seobythesea.com/2008/05/microsoft-on-organizing-information-in-storylines/" rel="nofollow">SEO by the SEA</a><br /><a href="http://sifaka.cs.uiuc.edu/czhai/pub/cikm09-map.pdf" rel="nofollow">hyperlinks</a><br />remmijhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17985809654574916217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-65984542612172433892013-09-18T09:11:47.287-07:002013-09-18T09:11:47.287-07:00["Schema-based Problem Solving" russell]...["Schema-based Problem Solving" russell] found The Mathematics Genealogy Project - Daniel Russell who had 2 advisors. Brown fails after a couple of generations because no advisor listed.<br /><br />However Dan's other advisor Feldman lead thru the years to LaGrange & LaPlace<br /><br />Well Done Dan<br /><br />I guess you did Feldman's Mathematical genealogy before you chose him ?<br /><br />Under 5 minutes<br /><br />jon who did not do very well in his university mathjonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450649073262987652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-92222705869172107052013-09-18T07:31:15.479-07:002013-09-18T07:31:15.479-07:00Answer: Simeon Denis Poisson, a French mathematici...Answer: Simeon Denis Poisson, a French mathematician, geometer, and physicist.<br /><br />With a Google search on: ["Schema-based Problem Solving" "Daniel Martin Russell"] I found the Mathematics Genealogy Project<br />http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=115644<br /><br />Daniel Martin Russell ==> Jerome Arthur Feldman ==> Alan Jay Perlis ==> Philip Franklin ==> Oswald Veblen ==> E. H. (Eliakim Hastings) Moore ==> H. A. (Hubert Anson) Newton ==> Michel Chasles ==> Simeon Denis Poisson <br /><br />8th generation: ==> Joseph Louis Lagrange: an Italian-born French mathematician who excelled in all fields of analysis and number theory and analytical and celestial mechanics)<br /><br />9th generation: ==> Leonhard Euler: a Swiss mathematician who made enormous contibutions to a wide range of mathematics and physics including analytic geometry, trigonometry, geometry, calculus and number theory.)<br /><br />Hanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16362447090339269962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-49055921055884312152013-09-18T07:18:27.547-07:002013-09-18T07:18:27.547-07:00I'm not sure I'm counting the "great&...I'm not sure I'm counting the "great"s correctly, because 3 successive levels of advisors were quite interesting. At what I'm pretty sure is the 7th-generation, is Simeon Denis Poisson. <br /><br />Continuing on, his advisors were Lagrange and Laplace. Lagrange's advisor was Leonhard Euler.<br /><br />I spent about 10 minutes on it.<br /><br />I started by searching your name and thesis title. One of the top hits was your CV, from which I got the year and university. Adding those top my search turned up the Mathematics Genealogy Project at North Dakota State University. http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=115644<br /><br />From there it was just a matter of counting clicks.Matthew Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14173275744727165522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-45898951560673255772013-09-18T06:42:43.897-07:002013-09-18T06:42:43.897-07:00Just an addition to the thought process.
While r...Just an addition to the thought process. <br /><br />While reading the beginning of the challenge I did remember your last family tree challenge and was hoping this wasn't going to be a challenge I'd have to go to my public library to research Ancestry.com. <br /><br />I guess I was too relieved when I started out because I noticed as I was closing tabs as I wrote my response that the Mathematics Genealogy Project was in my first results page when I started. Totally missing your clue if you meant it that way. krossbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877826327758153784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4953008377950396317.post-34746408923750866892013-09-18T06:26:17.653-07:002013-09-18T06:26:17.653-07:00Searched [ "Schema-based Problem Solving"...Searched [ "Schema-based Problem Solving" russell ] to find your thesis listed in Google Books but without a preview. <br /><br />Somewhere I found this page MPact that said you had no advisors http://www.ibiblio.org/mpact/mpact.php?op=show_tree&id=8573 Figured it had to be wrong. <br /><br />Tried Google Scholar with [ "Schema-based Problem Solving" russell ] <br /><br />Lots of citations but nothing helpful with you as author. <br /><br />Back to web search. Not knowing if it would be listed as Daniel Martin or Daniel M. I threw in the wildcard operator. [ "University of Rochester" "daniel * russell" Schema ] <br /><br />Very short list of results. I decide to give the last link in the results a try: The Mathematics Genealogy Project - Daniel Russell http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=115644<br /><br />Interesting! It listed you with 2 advisors and their names were links. <br />Advisor 1: Jerome Arthur Feldman<br />Advisor 2: Christopher Montgomery Brown (not a long enough lineage)<br /><br />So this tool traces a person's Ph.D lineage. Now to figure out this whole great-great-great count. <br /><br />Daniel M. Russell < Jerome Arthur Feldman < Alan Jay Perlis <Philip Franklin < Oswald Veblen < E. H. (Eliakim Hastings) Moore < H. A. (Hubert Anson) Newton < Michel Chasles < Simeon Denis Poisson<br /><br />If the "Greats" start at your advisor then it is Michel Chasles.<br /><br />I put in Poisson just in case you meant the "great grandfather way of counting and then we would start at your advisor's advisor and go back 7 generations. krossbowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877826327758153784noreply@blogger.com