Monday, December 30, 2024

Answer: What's the most significant thing going on here? (2/3)

This is even bigger than I thought...  


How DO we approach a research problem like this?  

P/C Google Earth

The bigger SRS Challenge for us  is... how much has Lake Nasser changed the lands around it?  

Here’s part 2 of our mini-series on answering this complex question about the effects of creating Lake Nasser.  


An ‘ordinary’ search for the obvious query might be: 

 

  [ effects of creating Lake Nasser ]

 

This gives a bunch of ordinary organic results in the way we're used to doing--but the AI powered list at the top gives a set of positive and negative effects as well. 


Seeing this list made me think that comparing the 4 top LLM systems answers to this question would be interesting.  Here’s the list of effects given by each of the most popular LLM question-answering systems: 

 

Gemini

 

Positive effects:

Increased agricultural productivity: By regulating Nile flooding, Lake Nasser allows for controlled irrigation, enabling increased crop yields and expanded agricultural land in Egypt.

 

Hydroelectric power generation: The dam generates substantial electricity for Egypt.

 

Flood control: The reservoir behind the dam helps mitigate devastating Nile floods.

 

Negative effects:

Population displacement: The flooding caused by Lake Nasser led to the forced relocation of tens of thousands of Nubian people from their traditional homes in both Egypt and Sudan.

 

Loss of archaeological sites: Ancient Egyptian temples and other archaeological sites were submerged by the rising water levels, including parts of the Abu Simbel complex which required costly relocation efforts.

 

Reduced soil fertility: The Nile's natural silt deposition, which enriched downstream agricultural lands, was significantly reduced due to the dam, necessitating increased reliance on artificial fertilizers.

 

Ecological disruption: Changes in water flow and sediment levels impacted the aquatic ecosystem of the Nile, affecting fish populations and other aquatic life.

 

Potential for waterborne diseases: Stagnant water in the reservoir could create conditions favorable for the spread of waterborne diseases if not properly managed.

 

 

Copilot lists these as the major effects, a mix of positive and negative: 

 

Displacement of Nubians: Tens of thousands of Nubian people were forced to relocate from their ancestral lands, which were submerged by the lake.

 

Environmental Impact: The damming of the Nile altered the natural flow of nutrients, impacting the sardine fishery in the eastern Mediterranean. It also led to changes in the local ecosystem, affecting flora and fauna..

 

Agricultural Benefits: The reservoir provided a stable water source for irrigation, transforming previously arid land into productive farmland.

 

Hydroelectric Power: The dam generates hydroelectric power, contributing significantly to Egypt's energy supply.

 

Flood Control: The dam helps control the Nile's flooding, protecting downstream areas from catastrophic floods.

 

Tourism and Recreation: Lake Nasser has become a popular destination for tourists and offers recreational activities.

 

 

Claude tells us that:

 

Environmental Effects: The creation of Lake Nasser fundamentally altered the Nile River ecosystem. The massive reservoir submerged vast areas of land, creating one of the world's largest artificial lakes. This led to significant changes including:

 

Disruption of the natural flood cycle that had historically deposited fertile silt along the Nile Valley.

Increased evaporation of water from the large surface area, leading to some water loss

Creation of new aquatic habitats, supporting different fish species and wildlife

Prevention of nutrient-rich sediments from reaching the Mediterranean, affecting marine ecosystems

 

Social and Cultural Impacts:

The formation of the lake had profound effects on local communities:

 

Forced relocation of over 100,000 Nubian people from their ancestral lands

Submergence of numerous archaeological sites, though many were rescued through UNESCO's salvage campaign

Loss of traditional farming practices that depended on annual flooding

Creation of new fishing communities around the lake

 

Economic Benefits:

Lake Nasser provided several economic advantages:

 

Improved flood control, protecting Egyptian communities from devastating floods

Enhanced hydroelectric power generation, providing electricity for development

Creation of a significant fishing industry on the lake

 

Increased agricultural stability through regulated water supply

 

Development of tourism around both the dam and lake

 

Agricultural Changes:

The lake's formation transformed Egyptian agriculture:

 

Year-round irrigation became possible, allowing multiple growing seasons

 

Loss of natural soil fertilization from flood sediments, increasing reliance on artificial fertilizers

 

Expansion of irrigated agriculture in previously marginal areas

 

Changes in crop patterns and farming techniques

 

Long-term Challenges:

Several ongoing issues emerged:

 

Accumulation of sediments in the reservoir, reducing storage capacity

 

Increased soil salinization in some agricultural areas due to changed irrigation patterns

 

Coastal erosion along the Nile Delta due to reduced sediment flow

 

Management of water resources during drought periods

 

 

 

ChatGPT lists these as the major effects, a mix of positive and negative, as well as giving a few future-looking results as well: 

 

Positive Effects

Water Regulation and Flood Control: The Aswan High Dam allowed Egypt to regulate the flow of the Nile, preventing devastating annual floods that historically damaged crops and settlements. It enabled year-round irrigation, improving agricultural productivity.

 

Hydroelectric Power Generation: The dam provides a significant portion of Egypt's electricity, supporting industrialization and improving living standards.

 

Reservoir for Drought Periods:  Lake Nasser acts as a vast reservoir, storing water during high-flow years for use in drought periods, ensuring water security for agriculture and drinking.

 

Fisheries Development:  The lake has become a source of fish, providing livelihoods and a food source for local communities.

 

Economic Growth:  With water availability and energy production, Egypt advanced in industrial and agricultural sectors.

 

Negative Effects

 

Environmental Changes:  The dam traps silt that would have naturally replenished the fertile Nile Delta, leading to soil degradation and increased reliance on chemical fertilizers.

 

Erosion of the Nile Delta: Without sediment deposits, the delta is eroding, threatening coastal ecosystems and agriculture.

 

Displacement of Communities:  Approximately 100,000 Nubians were displaced, losing their ancestral lands and heritage as the area was submerged.

 

Cultural and Archaeological Loss:  Important historical sites, such as ancient Nubian temples, were submerged. Some, like Abu Simbel, were relocated, but many were lost.

 

Ecological Disruptions: Changes in the river’s flow and temperature have affected ecosystems downstream, reducing biodiversity and altering fish populations.

 

Increased Evaporation: Lake Nasser’s large surface area in a hot desert climate leads to significant water loss due to evaporation, reducing the overall water availability.

 

Impact on Downstream Nations:  The regulation of Nile flow has created tensions with downstream countries, particularly Sudan and Ethiopia, regarding water-sharing rights and access.

 

Long-Term Implications

 

Climate Change Amplification:  The dam and lake exacerbate vulnerabilities to climate change, such as rising temperatures and changing rainfall patterns in the Nile Basin.

 

Transboundary Water Conflicts: The dam has intensified debates over water use, particularly with Ethiopia’s Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD), complicating regional water diplomacy.

 

Sustainability Challenges:  High sedimentation rates within Lake Nasser could reduce its storage capacity over time, challenging its effectiveness.

 

 



As you can see, the LLMs vary a bit from one to the other.  Here’s a table of the different factors that each system mentions:

 

(Click on this image to expand.) 



Each row shows the agreement between the systems.  Gemini lists 3 positives and 5 negatives while ChatGPT lists 5 positives and 12 negatives.  Blanks point out the places where one of the LLMs does NOT mention one of the factors.  Only ChatGPT suggests that Lake Nasser would be a net positive factor for economic growth, and only ChatGPT mentions increased salinization as a net negative factor. 


And, as you can see, each of the systems has a fairly different take on the effects of the Aswan Dam and the creation of Lake Nasser.  


It’s pretty clear that Gemini has the simplest take on the question, while ChatGPT has the broadest list of factors.  Oddly, only Gemini mentions “potential for waterborne diseases” and only Claude mentions “increased salinization” as possible issues while both Gemini and ChatGPT list “loss of archaeological sites” as a problem.


As a SearchResearcher you need to keep these differences in mind.  One system isn’t necessarily better than the others, but they DO have very different takes on what our research question means.  


Obviously, for a full SRS style research analysis, you’d want to dig into each of these factors and get some ground truth about each of these questions. Is Claude correct in telling us that "increased salinization" is an issue? Is Gemini right about how building of the Aswan dam will increase the potential for waterborne diseases? 


We could spend another complete post on that waterborne disease issue alone!  (And if you know me, we probably will do exactly that.)  


But if you've been paying attention to the SearchResearch space, in the past couple of months several new research tools have become available that might be incredibly useful for exactly this type of deeper research.  


Undermind.ai and Google’s new Deep Research are systems that purport to take your deep research questions and do a great, focused, detailed analysis for you… exactly the kind of thing we’re asking for in this SRS Challenge.  


For our next post, we’ll try each of these new “deep research” tools and see how well they do with our Lake Nasser Challenge.


Keep searching!



3 comments:

  1. Thank you, Dr Russell

    I'm wondering, it's good to sign in with each LLMs? Or the new Undermined.ai Or pay extra for Deep Research?

    I think for someone that uses this tool is a good thing but for those , like me, that almost never use this tools, how to choose the better one?

    I have Gemini with my Google account but I haven't signed in to others because having all those passwords or being in so many places feels like to much

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    1. I agree with Ramon's sentiment regarding search --
      there is a sense of "overwhelmment" - it's becoming too, too… not only the amount, but also the rapidity of change - the time spent adapting distracts from time needed to assimilate & apply the derived information… along with time to verify. a quagmire of data quicksand, resulting in distraction & diluted effort? And Willow is coming. zoom, zoom
      but that is the nature of modernity
      https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-ai-news-recap-2024/
      https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+too+much+search+capability&sca_esv=6f9618c19bdd3933&rlz=1CAACAC_enUS1032&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ADLYWIKXsdvyBTnZ_ixv427fgKdBWz53-w:1735610600654&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:m&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC6Meq9dCKAxVuDzQIHQwfMgkQpwUIEA
      https://www.google.com/search?q=lake+nasser&sca_esv=ba0e28cbf31eb5e7&rlz=1CAACAC_enUS1032&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ADLYWII1FIub-GZGmqmfCqd2PSnQreyFUw:1735612202364&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:m&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUs6im-9CKAxWnBDQIHQmtGDkQpwUIEA
      https://www.google.com/search?q=lake+nasser&sca_esv=ba0e28cbf31eb5e7&rlz=1CAACAC_enUS1032&tbm=nws&sxsrf=ADLYWIKJ8qh2b4h3DHvSGgwmwou7Yrbnuw:1735612219538&tbas=0&source=lnt&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie0MCu-9CKAxXbDzQIHY7vHtwQpwUIDA
      https://www.mirror.co.uk/travel/africa/sailed-down-river-nile-seven-34260709
      https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/151588/the-two-banks-of-lake-nasser
      it's already 2029, little time to breath
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath:_The_New_Science_of_a_Lost_Art

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  2. Hi Dr Russell, Remmij and everyone!

    Just to wish for all of us the best 2025!

    I'm looking forward to discover, learn and enjoy The SearchReSearch Challenges that are coming.

    Cheers 🥂 and blessed year

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