I was in Rome, Italy the other day...
... (it's a long story, trust me)...
... but while there, I saw this thing hanging from the ceiling of a party tent. The strange thing was that at this location there were 3 more inside the tent, and 4 more of these hanging outside in the garden, all suspended about 12 feet (4 meters) above the ground from tree limbs. They're clearly decorative somethings, but what?
This is a pretty straightforward Challenge this week, but it requires a wonderfully classical approach to search. Try it, and you'll see what I mean.
1. What does one call the hanging thing in the above image? The topmost ring about 6 feet across (2 meters) while the bottom ring is about 3 feet (1 meter) in diameter.
The color here isn't great, but the rings are covered in green leaves and vines. For the record, I saw more of these things in different places around Rome, always in festive spaces such as al fresco dining patios and the like, so I know there must be a place where people go to purchase them.
But if you went into a store, what would you ask for? And, for bonus points, what kind of store would you visit to buy this... thing?
As always, be sure to tell us what your thought process was in figuring this out. Let us know in the comments.
I'll tell you my search process next week, along with all of the sidetracks and misses along the way.
Search on!
P.S. I'll get around to the "how to search on a schedule" problem from 2 weeks ago. Turns out that I am really busy at the moment and the answer requires a bit of time to writeup. I'll get to it: promise.
wedding? pax romana... escape from the back bay - ☧
ReplyDeletesafe/productive travels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPQR
used: [hanging floral chandelier italy]
etsy would be a good source -- diy is a hassle...
https://www.etsy.com/market/greenery_chandelier
https://www.koyalwholesale.com/blogs/modern-diy-wedding-trends/10-fall-wedding-flower-chandelier-ideas
off topic, but ran across these for Mathlady…
ReplyDeletewomen
a launchpad
Feldman/Russell nexus
Berkeley
Thanks for the leads. I’ve used the Agnes Scott site many times in my own work. I’d never heard of Jerome Feldman. He has a sense of humor. “Four colors suffice” was a major mathematical breakthrough.
DeleteYep... Jerry was my PhD thesis advisor. If you look at the list of his other PhD students, several of them ended up at Google with me. (Ben Gomes, David Bailey, etc.)
Deletethe diy
Delete"the four-colour-map theorem is still an open problem."
Donald (H. S. M.) Coxeter
wolfram - Guthrie's problem
Kenneth Appel and Wolfgang Haken
you can see Dan here, MGP
many opinions
a couple other J. Feldman fragments –
DeleteThe NTL (Neural Theory of Language) project
on Amazon, pub. 2008
wonder what 'bard' would offer…
Re the DIY: According to the OED, a chandelier is “An ornamental branched support or frame to hold a number of lights (originally candles), usually hung from the roof or ceiling.”.
DeleteIf you haven’t already, check out the “FOUR COLORS SUFFICE” postmarks – very cool (I think).
DeleteI know the Appel-Haken proof is/was very controversial. I heard a mathematician speak about it who had spent years looking for a counterexample to what was then called the Four Color Conjecture. He said that he did not accept the A-H proof but he had stopped his quest for the counterexample. Truth v. Provability.
I presented a synopsis of that proof at my Orals. At the end my advisor asked me if I thought it was a true proof. I said Yes and they passed me so, as we used to say, QED.
https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/devlin_01_05.html
I'll post you…
Deletethanks for leading me to 4 color place…
wouldn't have ventured there on my own… even my new, embedded, smartphone AI ASSistant didn't suggest it &
he_she_it knows all I know & more…too late, meh
IV hues - NPR/Devlin
Math Guy - archive
1976
the 1st?
Wolfram
primes
do you have Illini ties?
Appel and Haken celebration
FCF
Haken
they may have solved 4 colors, but audio remains a mystery -
poor audio
what color is the Goo?
math as a sleuth - statistics & probability...
Deletehttps://www.npr.org/2018/08/11/637468053/a-songwriting-mystery-solved-math-proves-john-lennon-wrote-in-my-life
Remmij reading your post searched for more.
DeleteFound:
On YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yTL8wjc2c3U
Mitpress: 2019, (A) Data in the Life: Authorship Attribution in Lennon-McCartney Songs
https://hdsr.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/xcq8a1v1/release/7
Interesting podcast?
https://www.sciencefriday.com/
good finds Ramon - am checking out one of the podcasts now...
Deletehttps://soundcloud.com/scifri/chatgpt-and-beyond-whats-behind-the-ai-boom?si=dc4a8fb32bdb4d1c82a85df19713e5fd&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
more Beatles backstory as we speed along - "here come old flat top"
https://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/02/nyregion/groovin-with-flattop.html
so musical -
https://www.mightytoy.com/products/beetles-poster
Deletea couple SERPS, might be of use?
if you haven't already looked at these...
https://www.google.com/search?q=notre+dame+cathedral+in+films&rlz=1CAACAC_enUS1032&oq=notre+dame+cathedral+in+films&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.15027j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+was+the+last+film+to+have+notre+dame+cathedral+pre-fire+in+it&rlz=1CAACAC_enUS1032&oq=what+was+the+last+film+to+have+notre+dame+cathedral+pre-fire+in+it&aqs=chrome..69i57.37737j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
a film about the blaze -
https://collider.com/notre-dame-limited-series-cathedral-fire-netflix/
in photos -
https://www.nga.gov/research/library/imagecollections/features/notre-dame.html
Thanks Remmij! :)
DeleteI'm trying and no luck at the moment.
ReplyDeleteTried Google Lens, search by image and Yandex. Then with Remmij comment tried adding his/hers searching terms (Sorry Remmij I'm not sure if you are female or male that is why I use both.)
Also tried [Roman "al fresco" decorative circles] , [Roman ancient chandelier] and others changing those terms. Still nothing
Yandex had something that could fit and that is why I used chandelier even when Dr. Russell didn't mention lights on the objects.
With [ancient chandelier roman with two circles] in images, shows Medieval Chandelier but with lights. So I need to search more and also the name of Medieval Chandelier parts
Searched by image using Bing. The image result link to
DeleteBats chandelier:"...including the large tondo in the centre of the ceiling, which depicts bats flying with their dark wings outstretched and has, fortunately, survived..."
http://www.rocaille.it/casina-delle-civette/
Then [roman tondo chandelier] tried in both Google and Bing. This time Bing gave me better results
Circular framed busts, today often called “tondos” or “medallion portraits,” were known in antiquity as imagines clipeatae (Latin for “shield images” or “shield portraits”).
https://blogs.getty.edu/iris/framed-and-fabulous-an-ancient-tondo-returns-to-view/
2,000-Year-Old Roman-Era Chandelier is One-of-a-Kind!
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/roman-chandelier-0015752
An image search for [two foliage rings suspended from ceiling 2 meters] and some scrolling eventually found something that looked directionally correct on Pinterest.
ReplyDeleteThen a whole bunch of following similar images there led me to the concept of floral wedding chandeliers, which looked right except they were full of flowers and usually one ring, not two.
A few shots in the dark image searches later and the results for [greenery chandelier] seem pretty solid. Again, usually one ring, but my sense is the second ring is not an important part of the concept.
Nicely done.
DeleteGhirlanda is what translate calls a wreath
ReplyDeleteGhirlanda da appendere natalizie
Follows now studying images. A lot. used many Italian variants. for overhead / hanging/ natural
"Corona dell'Avvento per esterni" is the answer I believe.
Ghirlanda da appendere also helped. En anglais: Advent wreath
Available at https://theitaliantaste.com ; Ghirlanda da appendere also helped.
Image that looks close at https://theitaliantaste.com/art-receiving/addobbi/natale/decorazioni_ornaments/047decnat_decoriamo_il_terrazzo_4.php
ReplyDeleteYep. That's pretty close, although that's an Advent Wreath... which is so similar that you score a win! What was your search path? Was it all in Italian? (Do you speak Italian, or did you use a translator?)
Deleteforgot to look here. I used similar processes as others but I thought we were to find it in Italy. Hence my use of Translate to make the slog. I use it judicially when working in Dutch or Danish and now Italian. I think will take me another few weeks to master all the available options. haha cheers j
Delete…thinking about what is going on @ Google & in general,
ReplyDeletea couple of video quotes came to mind… evolution/revolution - the ongoing destruction/construction,
the known & unknown colliding… the maelstrom/cauldron.
Ozymandias
Shelley
J. Robert quoting Vishnu
more J.R.O. quotes…
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true."
It has been pretty dramatic, but Ozymandias is VERY HEAVY...
DeleteI met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Walter 'GPT 'White said: (trunkless legs are a hard sell...)
Deletefwiw - seems to be throttled now.
"what does google and Ozymandias have in common
Google and Ozymandias have one thing in common: the theme of impermanence.
Ozymandias is a poem written by Percy Bysshe Shelley in 1818, which tells the story of a once-great king who has fallen into obscurity and decay. The poem emphasizes the fleeting nature of power and fame, and how all things eventually crumble and fade away.
Similarly, Google, as a technology company, has risen to great heights over the years, dominating the search engine market and becoming one of the largest and most influential companies in the world. However, the company is not immune to the forces of change and impermanence. As with any technology company, Google must constantly innovate and adapt to stay relevant, and its current dominance may not last forever.
In short, both Ozymandias and Google highlight the fleeting nature of power and success, and the importance of constantly adapting and evolving to stay ahead in an ever-changing world."
different query -
is there a modern day Ozymandias
1 / 2
The character of Ozymandias in Percy Bysshe Shelley's poem is based on the historical figure of Ramses II, an Egyptian pharaoh who was known for his grand building projects and military conquests. However, in the poem, Ozymandias is portrayed as a symbol of the transience of power and the inevitability of decline.
In the modern day, there are certainly individuals who have risen to positions of great power and influence, but it's difficult to identify a specific "modern-day Ozymandias" who embodies the same themes as the character in Shelley's poem.
That being said, there have been many examples throughout history of powerful individuals or empires that have risen to great heights and then experienced a decline. Some examples from recent history might include:
The Soviet Union: once a superpower that rivalled the United States, the Soviet Union collapsed in the early 1990s, leading to the fragmentation of its political and economic system.
Enron: in the early 2000s, Enron was one of the largest and most successful energy companies in the world, but it was later revealed that the company had engaged in extensive accounting fraud, leading to its downfall.
Harvey Weinstein: a powerful Hollywood producer who was once one of the most influential figures in the film industry, Weinstein was later exposed as a serial sexual predator, leading to his public disgrace and downfall.
These are just a few examples, but they illustrate the idea that power and influence are often transient, and that even the most powerful individuals or institutions can experience a decline.
In a way, the concept of an Ozymandias-like figure or empire that rises to great heights before ultimately crumbling and fading away is a recurring theme throughout history. There have been many examples of leaders and empires that have risen to great power and then declined, such as the Roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, and the British Empire.
2/2
In terms of a modern-day figure or entity that embodies the spirit of Ozymandias, it's difficult to point to a single person or organization. Some might point to the rise and fall of certain tech companies, such as MySpace or Friendster, as examples of how even the most dominant entities can falter and fade away. Others might argue that the idea of a modern-day Ozymandias is embodied by the concept of "disruptive innovation," in which new technologies and business models emerge to displace established incumbents.
Ultimately, the lesson of Ozymandias is that nothing lasts forever, and that even the most powerful entities will eventually fall. In today's rapidly changing world, this lesson is perhaps more relevant than ever, and serves as a reminder that adaptability and resilience are key to long-term success.
Along the lines of "nothing lasts forever," a word to the wise: make sure your personal data (e.g., calendars, email threads, images, writings) are not locked in the entity that might suddenly become unavailable. I backup my files, but it never occurred to me that some of my files might be backed-up but inaccessible. That's one of the Ozymandian lessons--will your access paths remain available after the fall?
Deletemake sure those leg stumps have WIFI & you have a valid password… (who knew 'Ozy' (Ramesses II) was a Texican?)
DeleteLightnin’ McDuff
R.I.P., Lightnin'
some samples & flavor — yep transience…
Lightnin' obit
SERP - for images
atlasobscura
artist & origin?
"What are the legs outside of Amarillo?
Just off the highway heading south on I-27 out of Amarillo are two gigantic legs in athletic socks. You wouldn't know it, but they are the shattered likeness of an Egyptian king. “Ozymandias” is the Greek name for Ramesses II and was the inspiration and name of an 1818 poem by Percy Shelley."
thanks for keepin' on keepin' on…in the lone and level sands… there is always Majorca… & crew socks
maybe Ozymandias met Time - in the form of Krishna…
DeleteOxford
J. Robert
Stanford
Stanford, coursework
Trinity
RaLa
Jornada Del Muerto Desert David Hawkins
John Donne, Trinity poem
no. IV
who would have guessed KC Chefs (must be a BBQ thing) would be so accomplished at Fußball – better mannered than some Egrets fans… maybe it was the 'dry heat' in the Valley…? the Joie of Stumbling Search continues… despite the F-22s…
ReplyDeleteGlirastes - Colossii of Memnon?
portmanteau - dormouse
not a mouse at all…
yo Vito, we need a bigger kitty…
Insular gigantism
the sun will come out tamale…
headed to the Delta - wk?
All this talk of rabbit holes and the dormouse conjures up visions of Grace Slick and Alice.
ReplyDeletekitty or not
DeleteI thought it was Alice Slick – in a state of Grace
do you appear?
bunny hole alt… Alice is frightened…